* Korran taps his gavel on the table. *** You are now talking to channel #de_hc * Masamune glares at Cammy * CambriaA smiles innocently. * Bastien wonders when the meting is going to start. Alrighty, first on the list. Elder proposals. ((first warnin, meetin has started, keep quiet unless you're called please. Thanks :) )) Everyone has read over this, I assume? * Geirr nods * Grond nods * Masamune nods aswell * Crillius wonders if that counts as being called... * Shadocat thinks he's pretty updated * Crillius then decides to nod heavily. * Caithris nods too, but hopes that it will be restated here before voting. * Talyn_Aramil nods Counselor This additional title appears below an active member's current rank when that member has previously held a High Council position. These members have the same rights and privileges as all current members, belong to a duchy, and are addressed by the title in accordance with their current rank. This additional title merely recognizes their additional contribution in serving the Empire. Elder This title is awarded to those who have left Draconia if they previously held a High Council position. It is not a rank, but a recognition of time and dedication during their tenure in the Empire. Elders are not members but honored guests. If they chose to return to the Empire, they must submit an application. The High Council may vote to allow them to become members again without a squireship period. They are allowed to post in the Imp They are allowed to post in the Imperial Forums as are regular members. When a Counselor leaves the Empire, they become an Elder. Thoughts, concerns, questions? *** Sir Crillius? coolies, my very first hc addition :) ** well, i noticed the question about the counselors being mentioned in the list of elders ** naturally, when they leave after being a counselor, they move to the elder list, will they be mentioned as counselor in the same list, or will they be blended in in the list of elders? and will their name be moved between these two possible lists whenever they leave or rejoin the empire? done, for now.. it sounded better in my head... *** Raz (razdelacro@f244ec2.dsl.sfldmi.c4b6c291.net.hmsk) has joined channel #de_hc If they are active members in the guild, meaning Knight or above, they are denoted as Counselor's. If they are not an active member of the guild they are added into the Elder's list. To be updated if/when they come back to full activity in the guild. *** Bastien has left #de_HC I believe I answered this in the thread in the forums, though not definitively. The Elder List as you see it now on the member page will be listed as Counselors and Elders. This is to keep track of who's been in office. Those who have been in office in the past, but are no longer in office, will have (Counselor) listed below their current rank in the member listing. And I'm done, unless there are more questions. Grace Geirr? I would just like to make a motion to vote on the issue. done In response to someone who asked privately, but wanted a public reply... There WILL NOT be two separate lists. We will change the name of what is currently the Elder list. The member list will remain as is, with only an additional title below the rank for those persons affected. ** And yes, Counselors will be listed twice -- once in the regular memberlist area, and once int he Counselors and Elders area. That is how it currently is for several members anyway, including Mistress Gryphon and Lady Killandra. Now I'm done until I get another question. *grins* Grace Shadocat? * Crillius whistles innocently.. * Caithris winks. * Borwin head bos a bit, not being able to tell weither its a nod or dozing off I've spoken with a few members of Enchantica, and there is a feeling of not wanting a new title. The only other solution that I can see is a re-titling of the Elder's list to something like Elders and Former Elders. The definition of Elder just posted, we seem to agree on as proper. done. ** Sir Borwin? * Crillius thinks "Former Elder" will make some people feel really, really, really old.. I beleive in what shado says about changin the definition of elder instead of having another title added, the definition being someone who has contributed to draconia in time and wisom but still may be in draconia done * Caithris notes that support or not may be expressed in the vote. Anyone else before I start up the vote? ** Grace Shado? Will there be one all encompassing vote, or two votes, to cover each proposed definition? done Your Majesty? How did you wish to proceed with the voting for this topic? It's all or nothing. This is one proposal total, not two separate proposals. * Shadocat nods* *** Signoff: VoragDE (Connection timed out) Anyone else? * Masamune thinks the silence means everybody is ready *** VoragDE (Vorag_Grun@3b79e3db.farg.de83b96b.net.hmsk) has joined channel #de_hc Alrighty then. All those in favor of the new Elder/Counselor title proposal stated above, please respond aye. Those not, respond nay. nay aye aye. Aye aye Ayeeeyeee nay aye Motion passes 6-2 Alrighty then, next on the list. ++ *** Signoff: Raz (Killed (NickServ (Ghosted. By: matt (raz@bb393424.ipt.6ca6a889.com.hmsk)))) Elder Val's proposed ranks description changes. Minus the Scout proposal due to not enough discussion on it yet. *** RazDelacroix (razdelacro@f244ec2.dsl.sfldmi.c4b6c291.net.hmsk) has joined channel #de_hc Everyone looked over this as well? * Talyn_Aramil nods * Masamune is re-reading to make sure he didn't miss anything * Shadocat has been a while, and am re-reading * Geirr nods * Borwin reading * Crillius is following the flightpath of a local fly, then notices people staring at him..... The only allowed votes for this one are mine, the Coastlands, Enchantica's, His Highness', and Nova Q'lynnesti's. None of the other HC reps or members posted in the discussion. It might be best if we put this topic off until there is more interest. * Crillius quickly pulls a worn and tattered piece of paper out of his left boot, waving it in the air. "I've read it, see?" Then we can do the whole proposal at one time, instead of piecemeal. ** * Masamune feels left out We'll hold off on this one folks. * Borwin appreciates it * Shadocat thinks that just 4 wouldnt be enough for a quorum anyway ** No, it wouldn't be. Grace Grond, you wished to speak earlier? never mind I my question was resolved ok. *** RazDelacroix is now known as Rasconza Grace Shadocat? (Spoke with Sir Crillius in private about his question) Just another friendly reminder to all knights to feel free to poke and prod their dukes to respond in these threads if you have any interest. That goes for this duke too. I want to hear your opinions and know what is important to you! :) done * Caithris nods, very much in agreement. * Crillius wishes he knew he'd be here more then 15 minutes before it happened... Alrighty then. * Geirr couldn't get poked or proded enough today. Last thing brought up for tonight is the Gaming/RP Representation topic. Just cause I wanna make sure, are there any questions/comments/concerns left about this topic? * Korran listens to the crickets taking that as a no. * Talyn_Aramil screams no...then goes back to his drink * Caithris looks around and blinks. hmm, what woke him up?? * Talyn_Aramil wanted to make sure everyone was awake Everyone other than the Coastlands is eligible to vote in this topic, just a reminder. * Borwin shakes his ehad no * Borwin has really bad typing skills * Grond raises an eyebrow in the Chancelors direction ((it's ok, none of us is anywhere close to perfect Borwin :) )) ((some people are just closer than others....j/k)) Ok, lemme sum this one up if I can. * Crillius smells something... Talyn, keep your ego in check ;) * Talyn_Aramil laughs "what ego.......=P" maybe something else smells then.. Please vote aye if you think we need Gaming/RP representation on the HC other than we have with the current HC, nay if not. nay * Borwin thinks about egos Nay nay nay nay nay nay nay nay * Korran walks over and grabs Cammy's maul and smashes said proposal into dust, returns said maul and sits back down. * Talyn_Aramil thinks...all the nays....thought i smelled horse.... * Caithris chuckles. * Myshira looks at the dent in the table Alrighty, that's all that was on the list. * Crillius tries to think of the gesture Korran used to have Geirr showered by the guards... * Myshira runs over TAGS the Empress and runs back under Geirr's chair Her Majesty would like to address the Council, then I'll see if anyone has anything they would like to bring up before we leave. The floor is yours, Your Majesty. ** * Borwin snores and dreams about poker * Korran throws a gavel at Borwin to keep it down. * Borwin jumps up dang, now i gotta look up gavel.. shhhh I just had a couple of notes to bring up. One, I'm going to just go ahead and start asking for volunteers for the new primary game group on the main forums. Feel free to motion to vote on it if you don't approve of the idea. *smiles* Otherwise, I'll go ahead. * CambriaA is glad the maul is so helpful. Second, I noticed that there is solicitation for a host for the channel bot again. Due to the arguement that arose over it last night, neither His Grace Masamune nor Lady Hye will be allowed to host it. I've been looking for someoen else, but no one has come forward. * Caithris thinks. ** ** That's it for now. Sir Crillius? ehh my first ** was to get another round of drinks.. second **: i think Peutazawa did a good job at maintaining the channel bot before he left the empire. i'm not aware of his current status, but i he can't take control of it, i'll take that task upon me. ** (response to Cril) I'm aware of his status. :) all i need is someone to give me the software and an un-used CD key, if that's nessecary. done. He's still a squire currently, and told me awhile back that he isn't able to get around like he wants to right now, for various reasons and won't be able to be tested till next month sometime. ** YM? ** *** Euzeb has left #DE_HC * Geirr thinks YM means Your Majesty * Korran nods. * Grond thought it meant Why me? :) Peutazawa is in Europe. I don't have a problem with waiting until he gets back and having him run it again. I also don't mind Sir Crillius running it, but I can't help with software or CD key. I think there are others who have volunteered knowledge on the forums. ~done~ * Shadocat thinks too many people whisper Grace Masa? *ahem* don't have a problem with waiting until he gets back and having him run it again. I also don't mind Sir Crillius running it, but I can't help with software or CD key. I think there are others who have volunteered knowledge on the forums. ~done~ * Shadocat thinks too many people whisper *** Signoff: Talyn_Aramil (Quit: phonecall....."emergency."...yea right serra probably forgot to do something...brb) err oops lol Dunno how that happened Err... What argument last night and how am I involved in this? The only thing i've done is ask Puet to send me the bot. I was going to ask him how to work it when I got the chance, otherwise I have no clue as to whats going on. So i'm just flat out confused Done (Link: http://www.draconianempire.com/yabb/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=6557)http://www.draconianempire.com/yabb/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=6557 Myshira? That wasn't last night tho =P the CD key Peut used is one of mine for W3 that I can't use... as far as I know its still good and can be used. just who ever runs the bot need only ask me for it. done * Caithris begs pardon for saying last night, because she's not sure why she put that in there. She is MUY MUY embarassed and hopes she'll be forgiven. Grace Shado? Thank you. you're welcome :) *** Signoff: VoragDE (Ping timeout) First having been on the committee before, I can help with the bot software setup. Also, It interests me that Peut may return in a month. . . You see, I would like to see a team of two people who can host the bot. One primary host, and one secondary as backup if they see the first is down. . . . ALSO, I want to recover the password to the Firebot-DE account so that we may preserve it, and continue to honor Elder Pyros Haldir with it. done. *** Talyn (Crylis@67f8df6c.bna.828b38f5.net.hmsk) has joined channel #DE_HC Set up a new committee perhaps then? *** Mode change "+o Talyn" for channel #de_hc by Korran * Shadocat nods With atleast 2 of the members of that committee have a bot. * Geirr nods in agreement. So that if one isn't on, the other can put theirs up. same bot i presume? * Shadocat thinks Crillius would make a good primary, and Peut secondary * Geirr would like to see alternative bots investigated if possible. ** (to geirr) Alright, how bout this then. Shado, since you were on the last committee, you wanna get on this one as well? With Crill and then Puet (or someone else if he DOESN"T return to DE)? *** VoragDE (Vorag_Grun@3b79e3db.farg.de83b96b.net.hmsk) has joined channel #de_hc Will be fine with me. Crill, how's that sound? sounds fine with me, my comp is running 24/7 anyway now can i respond to Geirr as well? Please do. ** Geirr, any particular reason why you want the comittee to look into other bots? I think there are better ones out there. That is all. if i remember correctly, there was a rather extensive looksee into different bots when this one was first used.. if you have suggestions, by all means, let the comittee know done Maybe so. I wasn't involved and do not remember that if it occured. done Grace Shado? Let's just get the basic bot up and running, then we can experiment outside channel with other bots. Grace Geirr, any suggestions you are aware of will be welcomed. :) done. * Geirr simply smiles. * Crillius throws an apple at Geirr Ok, anyone have an objections to this committee as it is set up? And if Puet doesn't return to DE I'll leave it up to Shado and Crill to pick their third. none here * Caithris has no objection. how about it Shado? think ya can work together with a certified nutcase like me? * Talyn has no objections * Shadocat shows Crillius his own certification * Crillius slaps Shadocat around a bit with a large trout Alright, alright, settle down. Meetin isn't over just yet. :) *** Signoff: Shaydra (Quit: Shaydra) * Crillius slaps Shadocat around a bit with a large trout * Geirr giggles at certifications shh! i'm slapping here, can't ya see? Ok, anyone else have somethin to bring up before I close out the meetin? * Masamune has no comment on that * Shadocat thinks no. * Caithris shakes her head. * Korran doesn't wanna know what Crill is slappin, so just keep it to yourself. * Geirr thinks about how much blue rules *** Borwin has left #de_hc * Talyn laughs * Korran slams his gavel on the table, breaking it into lil pieces. * Crillius wonders what goes on in House Horn to give Korran such weird thoughts... Meeting adjourned.